Carrier on Trigger Assembly Protruding?

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Please feel free to use as you please. Heck, I'll even snap a few more photos if you need me to.

It's the dog follower spring video of yours I saw. I remember now. I'll go find it again, but it *looks* very simple to replace. I've eyeballed the assembly itself and can't find anything else visibly wrong.

I can't for the life of me imagine how the carrier got messed up (if it is, indeed, the carrier). And comparing the assembly to my non-mag assembly, they look identical, except for the carrier itself protruding further. No identifiable buckles, or anything. Just weird.

I'll have to wait a week before I have the cash to replace the carrier. Looks like I'm going to be ordering plate pins, too, because I still can't find where I put mine.

Thanks again. I'll keep y'all updated as to whether or not replacing the carrier does the trick.
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fwoom wrote:Please feel free to use as you please. Heck, I'll even snap a few more photos if you need me to.
If you're willing, I'll take whatever you have. But I should be able to work with what you've already posted. Probably the most helpful thing (apart from simply keeping me updated on the repairs) would be full-resolution copies of those images - if you still have them. You can either attach them here, send them to me in a PM, upload them elsewhere on the web like Facebook or Photobucket, or I can just give you my email address. Whatever works for you.
fwoom wrote:It's the dog follower spring video of yours I saw. I remember now. I'll go find it again, but it *looks* very simple to replace. I've eyeballed the assembly itself and can't find anything else visibly wrong.
It's really not tough to replace a carrier assembly. With the TPA out of the receiver, pull out the carrier pivot tube while applying pressure to the carrier dog, and lift the carrier assembly off slowly so that the carrier dog follower & follower spring don't go flying across the room. Then drop the new carrier assembly on with the carrier dog over the carrier dog follower, press down against the spring pressure to align the holes in the carrier & carrier dog washer with the hole in the trigger plate, and slide the carrier pivot tube back into place. Check to make sure everything in the TPA operates as it should, and you're done. All you should need are your fingers.
fwoom wrote:I can't for the life of me imagine how the carrier got messed up (if it is, indeed, the carrier). And comparing the assembly to my non-mag assembly, they look identical, except for the carrier itself protruding further. No identifiable buckles, or anything. Just weird.
It looks to me like your carrier bent near where it meets the trigger plate. The side flanges are shortest there, and could conceivably stretch that far without buckling or cracking.
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If I had to guess, I'd say the drop only slightly tweaked or jarred the carrier - just enough for the rear of your fore-end to slip underneath and bend it the rest of the way out to where it is now.
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Took a trip to the range today, and I can confirm that an 870 will function just fine as a single-shot with its shell carrier removed. I also inadvertently demonstrated that it will work without a rear trigger plate pin.
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After what seems like an eternity, I received my replacement carrier about a half hour ago. Just finished popping it in, and everything appears to be back to normal. Both mechanically and visually.

I haven't test-fired it yet, but it *appears* to be working normally. As I don't have any 12ga snapcaps, I don't want to test feeding/ejecting live ammo in my basement. :-/ Hope to get it in the field in the next day or two to test it out.

I have no clue how it got tweaked the way it did. I didn't smack it anywhere near the carrier.

One thing I did that anyone should be aware of is that little washer on the tube that holds the carrier in comes off really easy. And it springs. (I tried to pull that tube out instead of pushing. I was lazy and didn't want to go find the right tool for the job.)

Thank God I had a magnet to wave around my carpet. I'd have never found it.
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fwoom wrote:I haven't test-fired it yet, but it *appears* to be working normally. As I don't have any 12ga snapcaps, I don't want to test feeding/ejecting live ammo in my basement.
If you have some fired hulls laying around, you can fold the crimps back in or cut them off below the folds, and use those. They may not chamber quite as cleanly as real ammo or quality snap caps, especially if they're low-end steel-cup hulls, but they'll do well enough to let you test the carrier.
fwoom wrote:One thing I did that anyone should be aware of is that little washer on the tube that holds the carrier in comes off really easy. And it springs. (I tried to pull that tube out instead of pushing. I was lazy and didn't want to go find the right tool for the job.)

Thank God I had a magnet to wave around my carpet. I'd have never found it.
Are you talking about the detent spring?
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Yes. The detent spring. Maybe that it's a spring and not a washer is why it's springy. ;-)
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