XS Glue on Big Dot - Tip

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XS Glue on Big Dot - Tip

Post by MStarmer » Fri May 24, 2013 12:06 am

I've used a few of the XS bead over post big dots on guns and suggested them lots to friends. One thing I have seen on some of the videos on YouTube and other forums is that people say they don't have a good way to clamp them. In my previous career we had to come up with "unique" ways to apply specific amounts of pressure / clamping force etc... So anyway you don't need a lot of force but something to help the sight from moving and keeping it from floating from hydraulics of the adhesive when you put it together. Just a couple of plain old rubber bands should suffice.

A few tips for adhesive prep on these is to clean with isopropyl alcohol or acetone. Wipe it wet and immediately again with a clean cloth to catch any residue that is floating while it is wet, do this both to the surface and the sight. I do it at least twice.

Also it wouldn't hurt to rough the bead lightly with some course sandpaper just to give it a bit of "bite" for mechanical adhesion.

When using JB weld or other two part adhesive it's always advisable to make a test batch and make sure it cures before you use it.

Also when mixing put equal amounts onto your mixing surface (I use paper plates) and mix with the end of plastic fork or knife. Mix very very thoroughly and apply with a toothpick, never apply with the mixing item as you risk getting uncured adhesive on your part.

Lastly always coat both surfaces lightly, it's easier to get 100% coverage when both parts are coated lightly than one heavily dripping all over. Then scrape whatever minimal squeeze out you have with subsequent toothpicks or other square or round edged item of your choice. If you choose to clean with a solvent saturated q-tip or other be very brief as you don't want to compromise your bond with the solvent. I rarely clean around anything bonded with solvent, either tape it off or be more careful.


This is based on many years working in composite tooling, composite repair and per aircraft spec, or at least it was at the time... been awhile.

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Re: XS Glue on Big Dot - Tip

Post by DaveC » Fri May 24, 2013 1:05 pm

Thanks for the tip :idea: :!:
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Re: XS Glue on Big Dot - Tip

Post by Vitaly » Fri May 24, 2013 4:19 pm

Thanks for the tip! I'll post it to the main page.
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Re: XS Glue on Big Dot - Tip

Post by Automag » Wed May 29, 2013 7:26 pm

Thats a cool sight setup, and a good alternative to factory sight. Seems a little tedious, but anything worth doing right always is. I like that sight setup, thanks for the info.
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Re: XS Glue on Big Dot - Tip

Post by MStarmer » Wed May 29, 2013 10:58 pm

Not really tedious, it only takes a few minutes. I just tried to outline proper adhesive usage and prep for those that have less experience in the matter. When talking about recoil on a 12ga a little extra care can't hurt.

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Re: XS Glue on Big Dot - Tip

Post by Kentactic » Fri May 31, 2013 6:04 pm

I slapped mine on with JB quik weld and held it down with nothing. That stuff is thick. I slam that sight on the wall daily as its the high point for the barrel when leaning against the wall. It would take a lot to break those sights off. Really the only way its coming off is by breaking all the epoxy AND the bead its now welded to. Nothing wrong with strappin it down but im not sure how much stronger it would make it. The recoil is all but a moot point. The part weighs nothing. And i doubt the barrel has significant flex across that .5" section at the very tip of the barrel.

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Re: XS Glue on Big Dot - Tip

Post by MStarmer » Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:05 pm

I wouldn't exactly call a couple of rubber bands "strapping it down". In this case were the part weight is nominal I agree that clamping force will not increase the strength of the bond, the rubber band(s) is merely to keep the sight from floating around on top of the adhesive and keeping it where you like it until it starts to cure. The sights do have a small exist hole in the back for the excess JB Weld or your glue of choice to seep out if needed. Some adhesives do expand a bit when they cure so it's good to have something to help ensure the results you're after

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