Unbelievable - look at this !

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Unbelievable - look at this !

Post by gWebber » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:58 am

Holy Sweet Baby Jesus ! :shock:
Ok, I’m a newbie somewhat and bought this 870 at a shop and it looked pretty good, but I decided to clean it before going shooting (Know your gun). THANK GOODNESS!!!!

Lesson 1: don’t trust a gun shop to sell you a clean gun.

I’ve worked on car engines that weren’t this dirty.
I had to spray brake clean in the trigger group and bolt to get enough crap out to then clean it enough to oil it. Still needs cleaning and inspection by a Pro before I go shooting as I don’t know enough (or proper tools) to take apart the bolt and trigger group.

How many rounds without cleaning does it take to wear the bluing off a mag tube? And look at that plastic follower 😂
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Re: Unbelievable - look at this !

Post by Scorpion8 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:23 pm

Well, the good news is that you did clean it, so now we know it's clean. Some folks never clean their guns, and it's best for some because I know many who could not reassemble even one as simple as an 870.
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Re: Unbelievable - look at this !

Post by gWebber » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:24 pm

Scorpion8 wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:23 pm
Well, the good news is that you did clean it, so now we know it's clean. Some folks never clean their guns, and it's best for some because I know many who could not reassemble even one as simple as an 870.
Yes, some people don’t have mechanical skills (my wife 🙄) , but I can’t imagine even an 870 not jamming Or having a misfire once in a while if it’s this filthy. I had to struggle to get the trigger group out of the receiver.

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Re: Unbelievable - look at this !

Post by Banshee » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:13 pm

I have to admit i dont clean mine often either. About the only time i clean one is when i look in it and think, “damn i need to clean this” :oops: The massive amount of corrosive.303 and 8mm ammo i have fired over the years as turned me against much cleaning. :lol:
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Post by gWebber » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:20 pm

Banshee wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:13 pm
I have to admit i dont clean mine often either. About the only time i clean one is when i look in it and think, “damn i need to clean this” :oops: The massive amount of corrosive.303 and 8mm ammo i have fired over the years as turned me against much cleaning. :lol:
I think everyone slacks off some, but this thing was just stupidly bad. Bad enough that it’s fouled the right side shell latch bad enough that I need to have it repaired by a gun smith (Jams repeatedly).

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Re: Unbelievable - look at this !

Post by The Rattler » Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:32 am

I occasionally buy shotguns on line where you can’t inspect them before purchase. Boy, I’ve seen filth similar to what you found.

One that I bought was a 1949 870 Wingmaster about 3 years ago. The barrel was very clean, but it took me almost 2 days to get the receiver, trigger group, and bolt assembly clean!! Carbon residue was literally caked in layers inside the receiver. I ruined 2 brass cleaning hand brushes in the process. And it stunk after the cleaning process started. I soaked most of the parts in Hoppes solvent overnight. That helped. I used MPro7 inside of the receiver. It took a lot of scrubbing.

I finally got it good and clean. It’s now in good shape and shoots well. I took it to the trap range with me and shot one round with it. I scores 21 with it, which is about my average with my designated trap gun. It’s a good gun.

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Re: Unbelievable - look at this !

Post by gWebber » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:54 am

The Rattler wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:32 am
I occasionally buy shotguns on line where you can’t inspect them before purchase. Boy, I’ve seen filth similar to what you found.

One that I bought was a 1949 870 Wingmaster

I finally got it good and clean. It’s now in good shape and shoots well. I took it to the trap range with me and shot one round with it. I scores 21 with it, which is about my average with my designated trap gun. It’s a good gun.

1949 Wingmaster is a nice find even with all the cleaning needed.
I was eyeing a pump (don’t recal brand) from about 1930 or so. Wanted to buy it just to have such a lovely old gun.

Sadly I don’t have a lot of extra funds for fun stuff.

Congratulations on a nice one.

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Re: Unbelievable - look at this !

Post by The Rattler » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:57 pm

I bought a 1960 Wingmaster on line a couple of years ago that was extremely dirty like that. The barrel was clean but the receiver, trigger group, & bolt appeared to have never been cleaned. It took me 2 days to clean it. The carbon build up had hardened. The butt plate was so dirty with decades of packed mud in it’s cracks, that it took a couple of hours to clean.

After immersing various parts in Hoppes #9 and hours of scrubbing with a bronze brush, the brush was ruined but the receiver and its innards were clean. The gun operates well and is a good shooter. It has many good years left.

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Re: Unbelievable - look at this !

Post by Scorpion8 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:27 pm

The Rattler wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:57 pm
After immersing various parts in Hoppes #9 and hours of scrubbing ...
I have 3 Marlin 60's that I'm refinishing/refurbishing and a 24-48hr soak in Hoppe's #9 does wonders for loosening years of crud.
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