How many round to check out Aguila Shorties?

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How many round to check out Aguila Shorties?

Post by Rich56 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:06 pm

Thinking of trying Aguila shorty shells for home defense. I heard that some guns have trouble cycling them. How many would you shoot before trusting them for home defense? Gun in question is late 90s 870 express

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Re: How many round to check out Aguila Shorties?

Post by Dreadi » Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:47 pm

I’d trust it until it failed.


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Re: How many round to check out Aguila Shorties?

Post by ChillyB » Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:52 pm

Well now there is the problem. How confident do you want to be? Sort of confident costs maybe 50 rd. Extremely confident costs several hundred rounds. If one is testing for a failure mode that might happen once in 500 rd you need to run a couple thousand rounds to prove that you WON'T experience it.

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Re: How many round to check out Aguila Shorties?

Post by Rich56 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:37 pm

I was thinking 100 rnds. 25 loaded magazines times 4 rounds per magazine.
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Re: How many round to check out Aguila Shorties?

Post by Scorpion8 » Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:24 pm

I don't think round-count matters, but more the conditions of the test. Load up the mag tube and trying cycling/shooting as fast as possible like you were panicking. Then load it again, put down some pillows or blankets and chuck the gun down like you dropped it, and then pick it up and cycle/shoot a full mag tube again. Be creative, and think of actual situations you might encounter. Fire the weapon and cycle it upside down? Try reloading the mag tube with shorties in a completely blacked out room, no flashlights because your hands/fingers may have muscle memory of standard shotgun shells.
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Re: How many round to check out Aguila Shorties?

Post by Rich56 » Sun Jan 03, 2021 3:03 pm

Scorpion8 I like you’re thinking. If the Shorties work out, if a full mag isnt enough my reload will be with full size shells.. If that’s not enough heaven help me. If the shorties don’t work, somebody is making 2” shells. I’ll try and find them. My max HD distance is about 40 ft. My go to buck sizes for indoor are #s 1 or 4

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Re: How many round to check out Aguila Shorties?

Post by ChillyB » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:24 pm

Here's a tedious and inexpensive test. Since the failure modes we're concerned for are related to getting out the empties and getting in the fulls you really only need to fire ONE round so you have an empty hull. Keep chambering that empty then testing the cycling of a fresh round. But like Scorp suggested test a LOT of variables: full tube, last round, somewhere in between. Sidewayze, pointing up, pointing down, while shaking gun vigorously (as if running), free-falling to simulate zero gravity space combat, etc. Not as fun, but should be effective. I dont think many off us question whether they'll go BOOM once they are locked in the breech.

But even this this is not life fire per se, you MUST TREAT IT AS SUCH. DO IT OUTSIDE IN A PLACE WHERE YOU'D ACTUALLY BE OK TO SQUEEZE OFF SOME SHOTS. YOU WILL BE RACKING LIVE SHELLS INTO YOUR CHAMBER.

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