Slam Fire Remington 870
cv0lv0g0 posted photo and information about his slam fire 870 shotgun on Remington 870 Forum:
Slam Fire Remington 870
From cv0lv0g0:
I also have a trigger group which makes it “slam-fire”.
I have to get my mill up and running and I’m doing the same thing again but group that is in my 870 Which has stronger springs and a better trigger.
And for the nanny sayers:
Slam Fire Remington 870
I contacted ATF’s Firearms Technology Branch to get an answer to your question per our telephone discussion this morning. Please see the response below. Should you need any additional information or assistance, please do not hesitate to contact this office or your local WV office at 304-340-7820.
Sincerely,
Patricia Slaughter
Area Supervisor
Department of Justice
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Louisville Field Division/Louisville II (IO) Field Office
502-753-3500
From: Galbraith, Adam
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Slaughter, Patricia A.
Subject: RE: Slam Fire/Pump Action Question
Hi Patty,
It is OK from a GCA/NFA standpoint, but he may want to consider liability/product safety before doing that.
Adam Galbraith
Firearms Technology Branch
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From: Slaughter, Patricia A.
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:13 PM
To: Firearms Technology Branch
Subject: Slam Fire/Pump Action Question
I received a call from a gunsmith apprentice asking if it is legal to modify a shotgun to operate as a “slam fire” in the same manner as the now discontinued Ithaca, Model 37, pump action, a firearm that was discontinued due to liability/safety issues. He stated he is aware there is a Chinese copy “straight from the factory” currently being imported, a 1987 Winchester. Can he legally make these modifications. Please advise. Thank you,
Patty
Patricia Slaughter
Area Supervisor
Department of Justice
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Louisville Field Division/Louisville II (IO) Field Office
502-753-3500
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I am not a gunsmith but I have heard that some actions function safely when being slam fired and others do not. According to one of the gunsmiths who does warranty work on Interstate’s shotguns, the 1897 Winchester was designed to be slam fired. Presumably the same is true with the Model 12 . On the other hand I read where some gunsmith who worked a lot on the Stevens 520 said that in some worn examples (I don’t remember the exact problem) of the gun could discharge before the bolt was fully locked.
I would want to know for sure that an 870 would lock before firing before I would ever consider removing the disconnector. Better to buy an 1897 or Model 12 for slam firing than to deal with the aftermath of a catastrophic accident with an 870!
Legally I would not see a problem with the conversion since the 870 is still being operated manually. Gatling guns for example are legal despite firing rapidly because the gun is not a true automatic .
“Charlemagne”
There is no removing of the disconnector that is why it is safe.
“Dan”
No others to my knowledge has done this before but however here is one of my various posts of it.
http://www.1911forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=329457
I am making my 870’s trigger group to do a final product.
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Hello,
I would like to know if there is more detailed information on converting a Trigger Mechanism
to slam fire please.
Tony
That is very old post and I am not sure that author will answer you, sorry.