Comments on: Candewman (CDM) Clamps – Story of Creation http://www.rem870.com/2010/01/23/candewman_cdm_clamps_story_of_creation/ Blog About the Best Pump-Action Shotgun - Remington 870 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:18:39 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: CDM Gear http://www.rem870.com/2010/01/23/candewman_cdm_clamps_story_of_creation/comment-page-1/#comment-576 CDM Gear Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:05:27 +0000 http://www.rem870.com/?p=711#comment-576 Just to update the S&J thing, I was in talks with them about having them make my clamps in Canada back in December but told them I couldn't do anything then because of all the other things I was dealing with at the time. It never even dawned on me to look at their website after that but someone recently wrote me and told me about seeing my products up there and asking about warranty coverage. I guess because I was out of stock they were trying to get a clamp where ever they could and wanted to know if I would cover any problems. After a quick legal consult I was told it could be huge trouble, liability wise, for me if someone is using my name and producing product. After an email to S&J I was told that the person who does their website put that information up there under the belief that we would, one day, be doing business, and it was forgotten about. Without getting into all the details I was told it would be taken down and I'm good with that. Since all this, we've emailed back and forth and are again talking about S&J making clamps for Canada, which could be shipped to Europe. All in all, it's better that we work together to accomplish more so everyone benefits if we can work out the details. I have to commend Simon at S&J for his speedy reply in addressing the issue and we'll see how things work out in the future. Just to update the S&J thing, I was in talks with them about having them make my clamps in Canada back in December but told them I couldn’t do anything then because of all the other things I was dealing with at the time. It never even dawned on me to look at their website after that but someone recently wrote me and told me about seeing my products up there and asking about warranty coverage. I guess because I was out of stock they were trying to get a clamp where ever they could and wanted to know if I would cover any problems. After a quick legal consult I was told it could be huge trouble, liability wise, for me if someone is using my name and producing product. After an email to S&J I was told that the person who does their website put that information up there under the belief that we would, one day, be doing business, and it was forgotten about. Without getting into all the details I was told it would be taken down and I’m good with that. Since all this, we’ve emailed back and forth and are again talking about S&J making clamps for Canada, which could be shipped to Europe. All in all, it’s better that we work together to accomplish more so everyone benefits if we can work out the details. I have to commend Simon at S&J for his speedy reply in addressing the issue and we’ll see how things work out in the future.

]]> By: J.R. http://www.rem870.com/2010/01/23/candewman_cdm_clamps_story_of_creation/comment-page-1/#comment-557 J.R. Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:29:38 +0000 http://www.rem870.com/?p=711#comment-557 Hey CDM, Just wanted to let you know I'm a member of SGW also and I read about that BS with S&J! I and most likely we are behind you 100%. Hey CDM, Just wanted to let you know I’m a member of SGW also and I read about that BS with S&J! I and most likely we are behind you 100%.

]]> By: CDM Gear http://www.rem870.com/2010/01/23/candewman_cdm_clamps_story_of_creation/comment-page-1/#comment-547 CDM Gear Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:56:55 +0000 http://www.rem870.com/?p=711#comment-547 I would love to sell in Europe, but ITAR regulations do not allow me to ship outside the country. I have thought about having some made in Canada because I get a lot of inquiries from there. One manufacturer has offered to make them there but then you loose control over your product, as opposed to going through a vendor. Vendors are busy here and there is a lot of back ordering going on, which I don't do. I don't like holding on to peoples money for an undisclosed time frame. I do, however, have a waiting list email set up so people don't have to part with their cash. I just recently released a lot of parts and filled my waiting list orders (starting in November of 2009). It worked out really well. As for the stock adapter, I probably won't be doing it. There are a lot of good offerings out there already, but it was fun designing it. There was a big question at the time over patents and word spread that the owner of the patent for the adapter (the one your see on the FN TPS) was sending out cease a desist orders. It was said that this idea was already done (prior art) and that the patent was void. Others I know paid a licensing fee to produce under the patent. My design worked around that and actually had a removable plate where you could swap out the stock with a different shotgun without having to buy a whole new stock kit. This got around the patent because the stock kit bolted to an adapter, not the shotgun, and presented a different approach to attachment and use. I was also working with a guy from Arizona (Adam O)on the Stock Shox stock. Adam had a patent on a shock absorbing bicycle seat and worked in the prosthetics field. He adapted the shock absorbing technology of the seat to the shotgun stock. Although shock absorbing shotgun stocks are not new to the industry, this AR15 style stock was prior to anything that was in the shock absorbing field at that time as far as I know. It was basically the same as the Enidine recoil buffer system only this used a synthetic polymer recoil dampener. I still have one of the stocks here and a bunch of photo's of the product. It used an Armstech TSA adapter with a special ring to hold the recoil stock. I told the guy to ditch the TSA adapter and use my stock adapter and he would have a winner. Well, he never moved on it. I had placed several calls trying to get something going but the last I heard, there were a lot of these manufactured already and sitting in a customs warehouse for taxes. He didn't want to pay the taxes for some reason, I don't know if it was true or not, but that project died. Shortly after that, Knoxx came out with theirs and I felt that industry was spoken for and not worth pursuing. I would love to sell in Europe, but ITAR regulations do not allow me to ship outside the country. I have thought about having some made in Canada because I get a lot of inquiries from there. One manufacturer has offered to make them there but then you loose control over your product, as opposed to going through a vendor. Vendors are busy here and there is a lot of back ordering going on, which I don’t do. I don’t like holding on to peoples money for an undisclosed time frame. I do, however, have a waiting list email set up so people don’t have to part with their cash. I just recently released a lot of parts and filled my waiting list orders (starting in November of 2009). It worked out really well.
As for the stock adapter, I probably won’t be doing it. There are a lot of good offerings out there already, but it was fun designing it. There was a big question at the time over patents and word spread that the owner of the patent for the adapter (the one your see on the FN TPS) was sending out cease a desist orders. It was said that this idea was already done (prior art) and that the patent was void. Others I know paid a licensing fee to produce under the patent. My design worked around that and actually had a removable plate where you could swap out the stock with a different shotgun without having to buy a whole new stock kit. This got around the patent because the stock kit bolted to an adapter, not the shotgun, and presented a different approach to attachment and use. I was also working with a guy from Arizona (Adam O)on the Stock Shox stock. Adam had a patent on a shock absorbing bicycle seat and worked in the prosthetics field. He adapted the shock absorbing technology of the seat to the shotgun stock. Although shock absorbing shotgun stocks are not new to the industry, this AR15 style stock was prior to anything that was in the shock absorbing field at that time as far as I know. It was basically the same as the Enidine recoil buffer system only this used a synthetic polymer recoil dampener. I still have one of the stocks here and a bunch of photo’s of the product. It used an Armstech TSA adapter with a special ring to hold the recoil stock. I told the guy to ditch the TSA adapter and use my stock adapter and he would have a winner. Well, he never moved on it. I had placed several calls trying to get something going but the last I heard, there were a lot of these manufactured already and sitting in a customs warehouse for taxes. He didn’t want to pay the taxes for some reason, I don’t know if it was true or not, but that project died. Shortly after that, Knoxx came out with theirs and I felt that industry was spoken for and not worth pursuing.

]]> By: Theodore http://www.rem870.com/2010/01/23/candewman_cdm_clamps_story_of_creation/comment-page-1/#comment-510 Theodore Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:19:49 +0000 http://www.rem870.com/?p=711#comment-510 Dear Scott, Great products. Please produce as much as posible. I am trying to purchase from abroad (Europe), but everyone in the US informs me they are sold-out. Regardless, I wont settle for second best. Do you have any plans for us European fans ???. Rgds, Theodore Dear Scott,

Great products. Please produce as much as posible. I am trying to purchase from abroad (Europe), but everyone in the US informs me they are sold-out. Regardless, I wont settle for second best. Do you have any plans for us European fans ???.

Rgds,
Theodore

]]> By: J.R. http://www.rem870.com/2010/01/23/candewman_cdm_clamps_story_of_creation/comment-page-1/#comment-478 J.R. Mon, 25 Jan 2010 05:20:48 +0000 http://www.rem870.com/?p=711#comment-478 Very cool Scott, I believe you should press on with the stock adapter. This is a huge market and people will not hesitate to purchase the latest greatest thing even if they have to get on a waiting list. I waited well over a month before I received my Mesa stock kit but I wanted a solid quality product, so the wait was irrelevant. It looks like you too have a line of quality products and there are plenty of people who will spend the time and money involved in obtaining them. Keep up the good work and good luck in your endeavors. Take care, J.R. Very cool Scott, I believe you should press on with the stock adapter. This is a huge market and people will not hesitate to purchase the latest greatest thing even if they have to get on a waiting list. I waited well over a month before I received my Mesa stock kit but I wanted a solid quality product, so the wait was irrelevant. It looks like you too have a line of quality products and there are plenty of people who will spend the time and money involved in obtaining them. Keep up the good work and good luck in your endeavors.

Take care, J.R.

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